# webchat: a webrtc demo of a peer-to-peer chatroom

this demo implements a peer to peer chatroom. after joining a room, the messages are passed peer to peer with no involvement with this server. join a chatroom from two completely different browsers, computers, networks and you should still be able to chat as long as you join the same room.

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# webrtc

this is implemented via webrtc. if you look at the network console in your browser, you won't see requests going towards my server after the initial setup. specifically you won't see anything because at the time of writing most browser's network console doesn't include the webrtc data.

i have to admit, i don't know much about webrtc. all i know is that it does some serious black art networking magic to establish connections. it can punch holes in nat via stun servers, use relays, etc. in this demo i use google's public stun service but avoid using a relay because i'm not sure there are free ones for that. but i couldn't come up with a setup where i actually needed a relay server, webrtc is pretty smart at establishing direct connections.

if i understand correctly, webrtc is already well supported in most browsers. it's used for videocalls, games, webtorrent, peertube, internet-of-things, and many other things. and it's relatively safe out of box thanks to its mandatory encryption.

its api is a bit complicated but roughly this is what you need:

the only tricky part is implementing the "server transports data" part of the above description. i think this is called signaling in the webrtc jargon. this part is left unspecified in webrtc so each web service has to figure this out on their own.

# signaling

the signaling part only needs to transport a few kilobytes of text data between the two parties. you could do it even via instant messages. but of course it's much nicer if computers can do this automatically.

at this point in time there probably exist some free signaling services already. but certainly they aren't easy to find and often they come with complicated api. so i've created a very simple service in my server for my demoing needs.

there are two operations:

basically you can pass arbitrary data around:

  terminal 1: curl -X POST 'https://iio.ie/sig?get=someidentifier&timeoutms=600000'
  terminal 2: curl -X POST 'https://iio.ie/sig?set=someidentifier' -d $'hello world\n'

as soon as you run the second command, the first command returns with the data the second one uploaded.

the get operation allows for a `timeoutms` parameter. you can set it to 0 to immediately return if there is no active post operation waiting.

each text can be read out only once. if you want to share data across multiple clients, you have to keep re-uploading it.

multiple set operations for the same identifier will be queued up.

# chat service

now we have everything to create a simple webrtc based chat service.

and the rtc connection establishment looks like this:

if the browser didn't find an offer then it becomes the server. this server peer now needs to keep listening for new client peers. so it does this in a loop:

there's some additional complexity in handling various edge cases, disconnects, error handling, formatting, ui management, etc. these can get quite hairy so i didn't really bother too much with the details for this particular demo. anything unexpected and the demo just freezes up. but at least should be good enough to try out things.

for reference the hacky source code for all this is at @/webchat.ts.

# history

in @/webshooter i've talked about how i want to create a peer-to-peer multiplayer shooter game. this hopefully demonstrates how that could function with webrtc.

published on 2023-02-05


comment #1 on 2023-02-26

wow, thanks for this demo (i am the one from the other posting). i read about the "chat control" plans of the EU and am concerned, that basic rights like save communication are taken from people. client-side and server-side control could become obligatory for the major messaging platforms. a webrtc based solution could be nice, but without the use of any relay-servers.

comment #1 response from iio.ie

huh, i didn't know about those plans, thanks for mentioning. it sounds a pretty dumb idea. but look on the bright side: every time bureaucrats do something like this, the technology evolves, see what happened in the file/music sharing scene. as a response the more secure, less tractable, more decentralized, peer-to-peer messaging systems will get more popular. so the joke is on the bureaucrats. having such a chat control plan will be a net benefit for society due to its obvious unintended effects. :)

also note, this demo does not use a relay server. it needs a central service to help establish the connection between the two peers. once established, the peers communicate directly with each other with no involvement of any central server.


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